From nch@roe.ac.uk Sat Apr 8 15:51:11 2006 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 14:10:12 +0100 (BST) From: Nigel Hambly <nch@roe.ac.uk> To: WFCAM Science Archive Team -- Eckhard Sutorius <etws@roe.ac.uk>, Johann Bryant <jb@roe.ac.uk>, Mike Read <mar@roe.ac.uk>, Mark Holliman <msh@roe.ac.uk>, Nigel Hambly <nch@roe.ac.uk>, Nicholas Cross <njc@roe.ac.uk>, Bob Mann <rgm@roe.ac.uk>, Ross Collins <rsc@roe.ac.uk> Cc: CCs for WSA weekly meeting minutes distribution -- Andrew Lawrence <al@roe.ac.uk>, Andy Adamson <a.adamson@jach.hawaii.edu>, John Taylor <jdt@roe.ac.uk>, Jim Emerson <j.p.emerson@qmul.ac.uk>, Malcolm Stewart <jms@roe.ac.uk>, Martin Hill <mch@roe.ac.uk>, Mike Irwin <mike@ast.cam.ac.uk>, Peredur Williams <pmw@roe.ac.uk>, Stephen Warren <s.j.warren@ic.ac.uk> Subject: WFAU WSA weekly meeting minutes, 7th April 2006 Minutes of WFCAM Science Archive meeting: 7th April 2006 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Present: NJC, JB, MAR, ETWS, NCH Apologies: AL, JPE, JMS, PMW, MSH, RSC DONM: 10am, Friday 21st April 2006 Actions discharged this week: ----------------------------- ACTION: MAR to liaise with Eclipse regarding installation Discharged Actions partly discharged but continuing: ----------------------------------------- None this week Actions carried forward from 24/03/06 meeting: ---------------------------------------------- ACTION: JB to review Hardware/OS/DBMS design doc to note areas that need updating and itemise new sections required - CONTINUES ACTION: NCH to investigate the usefulness of a NAS solution for medium term archive mass storage. - CONTINUES ACTION: ETWS and JB to put a TWiki note on the intranet detailing the outcome of the UKLight meeting at NeSC. - CONTINUES Specific points and new actions: -------------------------------- Project management: NCH reminded everyone that next Tuesday, there is a VDMT face-to-face meeting in Edinburgh at which MJI, STH and JPE will be present. NCH reported back from the UKIDSS survey heads meeting at NAM in Leicester on Thursday. This was mostly concerning preparations for the next UKIDSS survey observing with WFCAM, but a few VDFS issues arose and were discussed. The main issue for WFAU was the release date of the Data Release 1 in the summer: this has now been fixed for Friday the 14th July. Some discussion ensued as to whether the same DR1/DR1+ databases would be required this time around; JB suggested that DR1 views could be implemented within a DR1+ database to avoid having to prepare two databases. SJW's preference (obtained after the meeting) is for the same as EDR: two databases prepared for release: DR1 and DR1PLUS. WFCAM update: NCH reported a brief chat with AA concerning this problem, which occured at the end of WFCAM semester 05B. Apparently a controller problem (which is now fixed) was the cause of one detector's data not being written. AA volunteered to send a list of affected dates so that we can watch out for any problems, but we note that we do not anticipate any archive issues. NCH noted that a sixth UKIDSS survey is now implemented (under the project identification U/06A/52). This concerns time-resolved photometry of late-type stars for the detection of planetary transits, and makes use of poor-seeing UKIDSS WFCAM time. ACTION: NCH to install the top-level curation metadata for the new UKIDSS survey ACTION: NJC to close out the data modelling for arbitrary multiple epoch surveys NCH noted that WFCAM is back on telescope at the end of April for observing May/June/July. Comments and issues arising from CASU fortnightly minutes: The team noted the minutes of the meeting of 23/3/2006. Regarding the transfer rate issue and UKLight, we are somewhat confused over the CASU comments on our minutes. With reference to worries over costs, is it a manpower issue? As we understand it, UKLight itself doesn't cost anything (at the moment); WFAU capital HW outlay costs are estimated at 4.3K plus 0.33K per annum maintenance, so surely this isn't a problem? (We suspect CASU costs would be similar or less, but note that CASU need to contact Chris Cheney in Cambridge to discuss). As regards bottlenecks, if apm7 "grinds to a halt" when WFAU are transfering, then this sounds like a bottleneck at the CASU end to us, and this will be compounded if the machine is being used for other purposes while we are attempting to transfer. Finally, the figure of 3 weeks does not make allowance for the necessarily low xfer duty cycle since the data need to be written at the CASU end, and ingested at the WFAU end, outside the transfer time. Further, any interuptions (power cuts, as have occured at both ends, etc) require manual fix-ups and further reduce the duty cycle. Finally, reprocessing (several times!) necessitates retransfer... Bottom line: we now have much evidence that there is no bottleneck at WFAU. The VDFS cannot currently cope with both WFCAM and the projected VISTA data volume at the same time, so we believe that we should press ahead with UKLight. This issue will be discussed at VDMT next week. Networking: JB reported: "UKLight discussions have been progressing and I'm currently putting together a possible application to UKLight for our bandwidth assignment, however this is something VDMT have to agree on before it gets the go ahead I think due to the hardware outlay and what seems to be a reticence on CASU's part to go ahead with the project. More statistics will soon be available with Eckhard's new CU1 script (hopefully by Monday)" WSA Operations: JB reported: "Backup operations continued as normal, a backup of the WSA is scheduled for early next week (overnight like last time). Ahmose was rebooted last week and I used the monthly downtime to shift BestDR2 around on Amenhotep. I ran a test of the new CU7 and worked fine apparently. CU3 and CU4 have been run through to the 9th January 2006 with a final CU1 run scheduled for tonight to complete 05B data transfers. BestDR3 is almost entirely copied over to Amenhotep and should be finished by the end of the day along with BestDR2 having been split up on Amenhotep we may even have space to build BestDR3 on Amenhotep assuming it can be split into four files. I've discussed various SQL issues (both support calls and interface upgrades) with MAR and have hopefully helped! :) A couple of new Non-Surveys have come in but have not been added as yet but can probably be released in the next week or so as long as nothing much comes up." Hardware: MAR reported that the new catalogue server is in the process of being installed in C1. Software: JB reported: "Eckhard and I have fixed a number of bugs in CU3, CU16 and the make files arising from the lastest code changes. Eckhard and I have discussed a a number of fixes and features including working on a new script to run in tandem with CU1 and a fix for CU3 MfID problems which he is currently implementing." ETWS reported: "Fixed some new bugs in the C++ code for CU3. Refactored CU3 taking account of the problem with wrongly identified production frames. (15% of ingested frames had a problem with the cross-referencing of associated dark/sky/confidence frames). Wrote a script (and ran it) to identify problematic entries in the DB." NJC reported: "Ross and I have added in the extinction correction code to CU7 and updated the schema.This has been tested and now run on the WSA, updating the LAS, DXS and UDS. I have been comparing standards stars taken in WFCAM to UFTI, IRCAM and 2MASS. I haven't completed this yet, but I have found that Ser-EC84, Ukirt FS144, is a variable, with variation over several months. It has a variation of ~0.05 mag in J, ~0.06 mag in H and ~0.1 mag in K. I have fixed up the confidence images in the UDS. This does not change the errors in the catalogues as I expected, but does increase the number of objects detected." MAR reported: "Mainly worked on the SQL scripts/stored procedures for implementing a query queue. Also progressed the jsp pages/forms that'll allow users to construct querys with the external databases. Will need to get the parsing script changed to produce different names for the checkboxes in the WFCAM and external tables." Survey Data Release: No news this week; see Project Management above concerning release schedule etc. for DR1. Non-survey Data Release: Nothing to report this week Astrogrid deployment: USNOB has been reinstated for the time being for AG applications software. Local AG folks have upped the row limit in the DSA/PAL applications accessing the WFAU database servers. Finally, no more news on a visit from Guy. Miscellaneous: NCH noted that the UKIDSS session at NAM was well atended and went very well, finishing of with a good archive demo from RSC. JB noted that it may be a good idea to raise the profile of the WSA within the University by incorporating the WSA home page into the MyEd portal. ACTION: JB to see that the WSA homepage is incorporated into the MyEd portal.